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  • 09/02/2015
  • Kurt

Hello, I have recently heard that the U.S. Congress and Senate have approved legislation that would abolish the 37 age limit for permanent USFS fire jobs. I heard if the President signs this bill then the rule will be gone. Which means seasonal/temps like myself who are getting near the age of 37 may have more time to build quals and compete for perm. positions. Is this true, anyone have any further details??? Thanks.

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  1. Bandito
    September 2, 2015 Reply

    I don’t know how true that is. If they took away maximum age limit they would have to address mandatory at 57. That is why the law is like that. What they did just pass gives long term seasonals of 24 months of federal experience or more will be eligable for merit promotion possibilities for permanent jobs. In other words they can compete and apply for jobs through merit promotion versus “demo”. It gives the candidate an edge over others without federal service

    1. TJH
      September 5, 2015 Reply

      The max age requirement does not apply to vets so I am not sure why it would be an issue for getting rid of the rule all together.

  2. FFdawg
    September 6, 2015 Reply

    I believe eliminating the age limit is part of the bill where seasonals with 24 months can now apply under the merit announcements. The age limit would be waived for them. The age requirement would still apply to Demo applicants, except for the vets.

  3. Bandito
    September 7, 2015 Reply


    We will see how OPM interprets and implements the law.

  4. MLJ
    September 14, 2015 Reply

    There is a new retirement option the COULD use, it the FS really wanted to open the door the rest of the way for those over 37, and that’s the new Roth Option in the TSP. It could be used as an alternate retirement plan for those unable to get their 20 in under the current FERS retirement. One thing, though, the FS does not have all the vacancies they had just 5 years ago, they get plenty of applicants for most positions now, so don’t have any pressing necessity to change anything right away…

  5. rangel
    September 18, 2015 Reply

    The law you all are talking about has nothing to do with the retirement system. It’s the one NFFE has been pushing to allow temps to have status when applying for permanent jobs. The age requirements have already been challenged in court by a veteran (LEO) and he won. Why don’t some of you non vets get together and challenge it? It’s actually the age discrimination law that allows it. It allows the agency to set an age limit and it has always allowed an employee towork to 60 to make their 20. The first time it cost me my job the limit was 35/ 55, but I met two FF that were 37 and somehow got appointments. They just had to work to 57 to reach their mandatory. Instead of whinning why not challenge it, but remember it’ll affect everyone that’s already under it.

  6. Hoby Miller
    October 27, 2015 Reply

    Rumor has it that it will change the 37 max. Not sure where this comes from, but heard it was up to an OPM interpretation on implementation as alluded to by Bandito….

    I am with rangel, doubt 37 would stand up to much challenge. Especially with someone over the age of 40. Which is the age they teach us is subject to age discrimination in EEO law?

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