| Clint Eastwood |
"We've all got it coming."
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." |
FC180 |
| Charlie Drag-Mcleod! |
"Never forget that your apparatus was built by the lowest
bidder."
"When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the fire."
"A rapidly escalating fire has the right of way."
"If the fire is in range, so are you."
"Radios will fail as soon as you need air support desperately."
"Anything you can do can get you burned, including not doing anything at
all."
"Professional firefighters are predictable, but the world is full of
amateurs."
"If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid."
And finally, "Murphy was a firefighter." |
djchief |
| my Old Hotshot Supt. |
"Hey stupid, don't get so excited... this fire's not an emergency... it's our job!" |
SoCalCapt |
lesser-known 20th century philosopher
- Eraticlese |
If Columbus had known for sure where he was going, we'd all be wearing saris and turbans.
If it can't be delegated, it's not worth doing.
Conservative thinking gave us the Pinto. Radical thinking gave us the moon.
Unpredictable maneuvers saved many a ship from torpedoes.
Did you ever notice how very few people living on social security are really secure, or for that matter, social?
Close enough!
The hardest decisions are the ones you are held accountable for.
The magnitude of management's error is proportional to the number of innocent punished.
--from Eraticlese' cynic period
Leaders serve the people; bureaucrats serve the process.
All those gettin' on, get on! All those gettin' off, get off!
"Not until it's perfect" means never.
Breaking tradition is like breaking out of an eggshell; it's the first step to growth.
"We the unwilling, led by the unknown, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful."
--posted on Eraticlese' refrigerator.
A person assigned responsibility without authority is termed "the scapegoat".
There is a significant difference between a leader and a cheerleader.
It is always good to think; it is not always good to tell people what you think.
Those who would steal liberty would start with freedom of speech. |
Old Fire Guy |
my EMT supt
AJ Hicks |
“No rescuing the rescuers.” “No amusing obituaries.” |
Nerd on the Fireline |
| unknown |
About needing to have a good reason for doing what
we do in the fire service, not just because somebody asks us to do it:
"Did you ever see a cat skeleton in a tree?" |
vfd cap'n |
| unknown |
"We the unknowing, lead by the unwilling have been doing so much, for so long, with so little, that now we are qualified to do absolutely anything with nothing."
That is the about the way some volunteer fire departments are staffed, financed, and operated.
This is a salute to the V.F.D. guys and gals. |
Retired L.A.V.E. |
| Admiral Halsey |
"There are no great men, only ordinary men, who have met
extraordinary challenges." (ditto for women) |
Tahoe Terrie |
| My Old Engine Captain |
"This is an exciting job; don't get excited." |
NorCal Tom |
| My Old Engine Captain |
"Safe firefighters are smart firefighters." |
NorCal Tom |
| My Old FMO |
"The very worst fire plan is no plan (the next worse is two
plans)." |
NorCal Tom |
| Von Molke |
"No plan survives contact with the enemy." |
FC180 |
| General George Patton |
"No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair." |
FC180 |
| unknown |
"If your plan relies on aircraft you need another plan." |
FC180 |
| Winston Churchill |
“I ought to have known, my advisors ought to have known and I ought to have been told, and I ought to have
asked.” |
FC180 |
| Alan Brunacini, chief of the Phoenix Fire
Department |
Vomiting firefighters are ugly firefighters.
If the red lights on your truck are melting, you parked too close.
Don't stand next to the guy who's always bandaged.
And my personal favorite:
If you panic, be sure to run in the correct direction. |
Fish |
| General Dwight D. Eisenhower |
"A plan is nothing; planning is everything." (on the value of planning).
We use this during multi-agency training to encourage members of all
agencies effected by the plan to be involved in the planning process. |
Hunter
& FC180 |
| General George Patton |
"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer." |
Batchmaster |
| unknown |
"Nobody ever avoided tripping over something without first acknowledging
that it was possible that they could fall." |
Batchmaster |
| Will Rogers |
"Good judgment is based on experience, and a lot of that comes
from
bad judgment." |
OFG |
| unknown |
"In an emergency situation, you don’t rise to the occasion; you
fall back to your level of training." |
Nerd on the Fireline |
| Larry Wright |
"Very little on a fire rolls uphill." |
Mellie |
| Old and Bold Firefighter |
"Never go into a fire with someone braver than you." |
AH |
| Robert Ingersoll |
"In nature there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are consequences." |
JR |
| Norman MacLean |
"The fire didn't have organizational problems." (from his account of Mann Gulch in
Young Men and Fire) |
vfd cap'n |
| Original Ab |
When asked by a youngster what crew he should join to fight a lot
of fire:
"No matter which crew you select, the other crews will have more
overtime." |
Murphy? |
| unknown |
"All fires go out eventually!"
"The longer you wait to make a decision, the fewer options you will have!"
"The greatest problem with communication is the illusion that it has been achieved"
"In the last 70 years of wildland fire fighting, we have not invented a new method to severely injure or kill ourselves." |
RLL |
| Abelson, 1972 |
"We are very good at finding reasons for what we do, but not very good at doing what we find reasons for." |
RLL |
| Chuck Yeager |
"Always leave yourself a way out." |
RLL |
| Diane Vaughn, The Challenger Disaster |
"But they emerged from the teleconference having accepted increased risk once more. Following the rules, doing their job, they made a mistake. With all procedural systems for risk assessment in place, they made a disastrous decision." |
RLL |
| lifelong Manson WA resident 2002 (Deer Point Fire) |
"You can't do much to stop it when you're looking up at the flames." |
RLL |
| Curt Braun, Ph.D and others before
him |
Always remember "You don't know what you Don't Know." |
RLL |
| Unknown |
"No piece of ground is worth a person's life." |
Richard |
| Unknown |
"Expect the best. Prepare for the worst." |
OB |
| Unknown |
"Success is never final, failure is never fatal; it's courage that counts." |
JM |
| Mark Twain |
"Courage is resistance to fear, the mastery of fear-- not the absence of fear." |
JM |
| Henry Ford |
"Whether you think you can or think you can't--you are right." |
JM |
| Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach |
"In youth we learn, in old age we understand." |
JM |
| Rudyard Kipling |
"The strength of the wolf is in the pack, the strength of the pack
is in the wolf." |
SoCal Capt |
| Rene Dubois, ecologist, writer, Pulitzer prize winner |
"Are you willing to give up who you are, for who you can become?" |
mtndv8 |
| Verne Hill |
"If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what
you always got." |
Abercrombie |
| Dean Dysart, Ventura County Fire
Department (retired) |
"If you can see the incident commander’s ass instead of his face,
he is in the wrong place." |
<chuckle>
Mellie |
| Joe Stutler |
"Fires all go out eventually." |
Mellie |
| My dad |
"Tell the truth, tell it early, tell it yourself." |
Mellie |
| Jane Austen to a hotshot |
"What dreadful hot weather we have! It keeps me in a continual
state of inelegance." |
Mellie |
| From an old FCO |
"Never take any fire personally. You aren't the one that made the woods
flammable." |
Dave |
| Unknown |
Often said by many after another court ruling stopping a thinning project:
"All fuels get treated eventually -- one way or another." |
Dave |
| Sophocles |
"Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud." |
Jason |
| H. Jackson Brown, Jr. |
"Never underestimate your power to change yourself; never
overestimate your power to change others." |
Jason |
| Ralph Waldo Emerson |
"For the resolute and determined there is time and
opportunity." |
Jason |
| unknown |
If you play with fire, you’re gonna get burnt. |
Burnt |
| Honore de Balzac |
"Playing with fire is bad for those who burn themselves. For the rest of us, it is a very great pleasure.” |
Nerd on the Fireline |
| unknown |
"People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who
are doing
it." |
Mellie |
| Bertrand Russell |
"Most people would rather die than think" |
BP |
Yoda, Jedi Master
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, circa 1980 |
"Do or do not. There is no try." |
EMT_MB |
| Colin Powell |
"The commander in the field is always right and the rear echelon
is wrong, unless proved otherwise." |
Tim |
| Old Chinese proverb |
“Tell me and I will forget. Show me and I may remember. Involve me
and I will understand.” |
Dan Kleinman in a conversation |
| Some Ancient Greek or John Wendt |
Vita brevis; terra larga. - Life is short; the land is
long. |
John Wendt |
| yactac |
"Situation Awareness" or "SA" used in the Leadership, Human
Factors and CRM context.... The constant re-evaluation
of the environmental inputs in order to make one’s perception of
reality come as close as possible to matching reality. |
yactac |
| unknown (anyone know who?) |
Situational Awareness is how you get a passing grade at the School
of Hard Knocks. |
Steve, LCES |
| NorCal Tom |
Recognizing my mistakes and owning them gets me to the right
choice. |
JT |
| Will Rogers (who would have done well
sharing his pearls of wit and wisdom on a Wildland Fire Team) |
If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop
diggin'.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from
bad judgment.
Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier 'n puttin' it
back in.
If you're ridin' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and
then to make sure it's still there.
Don't squat with your spurs on.
If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try
orderin' somebody else's dog around.
After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started
roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him... The
moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.
Never kick a cow chip on a hot day.
There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works.
Never slap a man who's chewin' tobacco.
When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't
be surprised if they learn their lesson.
When you're throwin' your weight around, be ready to have it thrown
around by somebody else.
The quickest way to double your money is to fold it over and put it
back in your pocket.
Never miss a good chance to shut up. |
Larry I. |
| My dad |
With respect to posting fire lookouts: "Trust your friends, but cut the
cards." |
Class C Sagebrush Faller |
| Don Studebaker |
"When you lose your head, the next thing is your ass." |
Tahoe Terrie |
| Leadership Secrets of Attila the Hun |
"Chieftains must teach their Huns well that which is expected
of them. Otherwise, Huns will probably do something not expected of
them". |
Misery Whip |
| wisdom from the Chinese Song dynasty (960-1279 AD) |
"Safety is not the safety of one day, nor is danger the danger of one day. Both safety and danger come from gradual development."
"A superior person is one who when safe does not forget about danger, and who in times of order does not forget about disorder." |
Misery Whip |
| James Reason, the risk management guru |
"Error-prone people do, of course, exist, but they seldom remain
at the hazardous sharp end for very long. Quite often, they get
promoted to management". |
Misery Whip |
| Joe Friday |
"Just the facts, m'am, nothing but the facts." |
Lobotomy |
| Class C Sagebrush Faller |
Don't leave your SA behind, even for a minute, in life or on a
fire. As soon as you do, life will sneak up on you and bite you in
the ass. I'm just lucky that this happened in a parking lot, and
not on a fire. |
Stanley nominated these. |
| What many seem to be asking... |
Got SA? (Situational Awareness) |
Ab. |
| General Patton |
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan
later." |
Misery Whip |
| The Art of War, Sun Tzu |
"So there are three ways in which a civil leadership causes the
military (USFS) trouble. When a civil leadership unaware of the
facts tells its armies (wildland fire managers) to advance when it
should not, or tells its armies to retreat when it should not, this
is called tying up the armies. When the civil leadership is ignorant
of military affairs but shares equally in the government of the
armies, the soldiers (firefighters) get confused. When the civil
leadership is ignorant of military maneuvers but shares equally in
the command of the armies, the soldiers hesitate. Once the armies
are confused and hesitant, trouble comes from competitors (fires).
This is called taking away victory by deranging the military." |
Misery Whip |
| Voltaire, but re-popularized in the
early days of the USofA by Ben Franklin and other patriots |
I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to
the death your right to say it! |
Pyroman |
| Will Rogers |
About bureaucratic process:
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there." |
Tahoe Terrie |
| My dad |
"If you always cover your bases, you never have to cover your a$$." |
FireBill |
| Benjamin Franklin |
"We must all hang together, or we shall surely hang separately." |
Lobotomy |
| Susan B Anthony |
"Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve their
reputation and social standing, can never bring about reform. Those
who are really in earnest must be willing to be anything or nothing
in the world's estimation." |
Misery Whip |
| a favorite of Gina Zalunardo who
painted this in bright purple and magenta on her bedroom wall;
originally by Satchel Paige |
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been
hurt, dance like nobody's watchin'." |
Cindy Zalunardo |
| Robert L. Dutton |
"Fire prevention is a whole lot easier than fire clean-up. You can
unwet, but you can't unburn." |
R2
localyokel |
| Petronious Arbitar, 210 BC" |
"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were
beginning to form up, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later
in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing. And
what a wonderful method it can be for creating an illusion of
progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and
demoralization." |
backburnfs |
| unknown |
Your actions speak so loudly I can't hear what you're saying... |
danfromord |
| C. Caldwell, 1979, fire near Placerville |
"Never fight fire from ego" |
Willy |
| DIVS briefing- Shasta-T, 1987 |
"Have cognition before ignition" |
Willy |
| unknown |
"Excuses are the nails that built the house of failure" |
Firecat from FKU |
| unknown oldtimer |
Fires give the test just ahead of the lesson. |
BLM Bob |
Ray Quintanar
(R5 Chief Officers Mtg, 03/06) |
If you want to know what your future holds, you can define it; but
to get there, you'll have to engage in the present. |
Mellie |
| James Reason |
“Human error is a consequence not a cause. Errors are shaped by
upstream workplace and organizational factors….. Only by
understanding the context of the error can we hope to limit its
reoccurrence”. |
Mellie |
| prayer or exhortation |
"Omnis Cedo Domus"
Everyone Goes Home |
from Zimm's email |
| Jim Smith |
"Always try sugar before gun powder." |
FB |
| Jim Smith |
"It's not the depth of the water that kills you, it's the water.
More relevant, it's not the size of the fire that gets you, it's the
fire." |
FB |
| Old Boots |
"Never trust a fat man in a clean fire shirt." |
Old Boots |
| Alice in Wonderland |
'Curiouser and curiouser!' |
vfd cap'n |
| Alice in Wonderland |
`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `We're all mad here. I'm
mad.
You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.' |
vfd cap'n |
| Alice in Wonderland |
`Now, I give you fair warning,' shouted the Queen, stamping on the
ground as
she spoke; `either you or your head must be off, and that in about
half no
time! Take your choice!' |
vfd cap'n |
| Alice in Wonderland |
'Sentence first -- verdict afterwards.' |
vfd cap'n |
| Theodore Roosevelt (1891) |
"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the
mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and
imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought
to be done." |
Domaque |
| Theodore Roosevelt (1894) |
"Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but
it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute
for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate
usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the
battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight
ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the
danger." |
Domaque |
| Shared by an old CRWB a long time ago... |
Fireline truth: "If you are bored on a fire and you come up with an 'Idea' that
might be fun, think twice about doing it. Usually the 'Idea' is a
bad one." |
Paul |
| Dr. Seuss |
"Today was good. Today was fun. Tomorrow is another one." |
fireuseman |
| SLR |
where there are lizards, there are snakes (leave the wildlife
alone) |
SLR |
| SLR |
if you can't fix it, don't break it (chain saws and pumps, come to
mind) |
SLR |
| SLR |
you don't know if you don't try (usually related to burning out) |
SLR |
| SLR |
thanks for the MREs (sang like Frank Sinatra's little dity) |
SLR |
| Voltaire |
"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." |
Midwest Fire Guy |
| Craig Halker, BC ret |
“Delegate ruthlessly” |
sur2baja |
| Mike Weddington, BC ret |
“Knowledge without experience is trivia, Trivia without
verification is bull-s***!” |
sur2baja |
| unknown |
Educational times on the fire are not always fun times. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
If you don't have a plan, don't add additional resources. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
Experience and education are like oregano -- they must be mixed with
a lot of other stuff to be good. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
It is difficult to get just a little bit exited. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
Some days on the fireline the best it gets is so-so. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
If the forest burns don't take it personally; you didn't make the
woods combustible and you didn't start the bloomin' thing. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
If looking at a fire makes you crazy, don't look at it. |
Socal Dispatcher |
| unknown |
Don't think that you are communicating just because you are
talking.
|
Socal Dispatcher |
| Ivan Cupp - Safety Officer |
"Remember, it's a very short distance between 'OK' and 'OH HELL'." |
JC |
| John
Caffin - Safety Officer |
"It's so dry, we're just a dragging muffler away from chaos!" "There are no secrets in the Forest Service, just a time delay." |
JC |
| Lewis Kearney - IC |
"Whatever you do, Don't strut!" |
JC |
| Harry Truman |
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets
the credit. |
BDU Steve |
| |
For more good quotes, check out BLM Bob's list of
Tactical Truths and
Scratch Lines, one-liners shared by wildland firefighters. |
Socal Dispatcher |
