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Most people who become professional career wildland firefighters begin with a seasonal position. You might try a summer of firefighting to see if you like it, then approach your captain to get the forest to sponsor you as an apprentice. Apprentices get some experience on a variety of crews over a number of seasons. (Wildland Firefighter Apprenticeship Program). More education will be necessary. If you’re already a student or are planning ahead, you might want to take advantage of one of the Forest Service Student Programs.
A seasonal firefighter can be a member of:
The tasks these groundpounding firefighters perform are arduous (physically demanding) and they have to be in top physical shape. The work is hard and can be dangerous. They carry packs and equipment weighing between 40 and 120 pounds. During fire season days are long. "Groundpounders" often eat and sleep near fires and likely there will be times when they don’t have showers or laundry facilities. They have to be self sufficient. When not fighting fire away from their home base, firefighting crews often work on fire management tasks that can include thinning, brush disposal, prescribed burning and other fuels management tasks. During fire season some fire crews may travel to other states and regions to help suppress large fires. In the future, if the current dispatch patterns persist, they increasingly may be called on to respond to "all-risk" efforts throughout the United States such as space shuttle recovery, hurricane relief work, etc.
Engine crews are designed for initial attack and extended attack of wildland fires on local or "home" forest units. They are often used to augment adjacent Forests, other Regions, and local government responses. In populated and remote parts of the United States, they also respond to medical emergencies, vehicle accidents, and other threats to federal wildland program areas. Firefighters on engines are trained to work with handtools, hoses, portable pumps, radios and other specialized equipment. These are crews of multi-skilled professional firefighters who construct fireline, create hoselays and conduct burnout and mopup operations. These professional firefighters also perform valuable visitor protection in remote areas. For more information about engine crews, check out the FS Engine Crews page.
Hotshots and other organized Handcrews are 20-person crews composed of a diverse but cohesive group of temporary and professional career firefighters. There are 5 levels or types of crews: Type 1 Interagency Hotshot Crews (IHC), Type 1, Type 2-Initial Attack (IA), Type 2, and Type 3. Handcrews train together and work together to build fireline, burn out areas to widen their firelines, and mop up after fire. They use chainsaws and hand tools such as pulaskis, mcclouds and shovels. Hotshots have more training and experience than other handcrews. Hotshot designation has undergone some changes of late. Some Hotshots – the traditional hotshots or Type I Interagency Hotshot Crews (IHC) – are a "shared national resource" and come from the USFS, BLM, NPS, and BIA and are often dispatched nationwide from NIFC in Boise, Idaho. There are also Regional Hotshots (RHC) and crews working toward IHC status that may be held closer to home. For more information: the FS Handcrews page. For info about hotshots, check out the FS Hotshot Crews page or visit the Hotshot Crews List or the CA Hotshot Crews page. The Regional Hotshots do not yet have a webpage.
Helicopter Crews(flight crews, helitack, or rappellers) usually work in concert with their helicopters and are designed for a quick, aggressive response to wildland fires in remote areas. These firefighters are "groundpounders" who have often have previous experience working with helicopters, or are specifically trained for their particular type of insertion into remote areas via helicopter. Depending on what they do, they must be self-reliant and work both independently and as an organized crew on the ground in conjunction with their helicopter or not. For more information about helicopter crews: the FS Helicopter Crews page and our Arroyo Grande Flight Crew photo page.
Smokejumpersare specialized firefighters who parachute into remote areas for fast, aggressive initial attack on remote lightning strikes or wildland fires. Smokejumpers must be self-reliant and work both independently and as an organized crew. Smokejumpers must be in outstanding physical condition and have at least one year of prior firefighting experience. For more information about smokejumpers: FS Smokejumper page or the Smokejumper’s website.
Easy Reading: Some articles from a Young Wildland Firefighter on the Line.
A government pay scale determines a firefighter’s rate of pay. This is based on the "grade" level (GS level) at which they are hired — which is based on experience and education.
You have 40 hr. weeks till you get on fires. Pay depends on experience level. Basically $10 hr. to start, 8 hour days with time and a half for overtime and another 1/4 of baserate for hazard pay (whether added on to baserate pay during the 8 hr day or added on to overtime pay).
On fires you can have extended work shifts of 12+ hours. There’s a 2:1 work to rest ratio that’s fairly standard. Days off may not come together or on weekends when fires are goin’ and blowin’.
There are very few qualifications necessary to get hired. However, once hired, firefighters must pass some required classes: S-130, S-190, I-100, and leadership classes. They’re given as much training as they can handle and show they can absorb.
Training is designed to provide safety for individual firefighters and the whole crew. Whether classroom or hands-on, crewmembers are graded on a pass/fail basis. Firefighters must pass the basic introductory training before they "make the team" and the crew is dispatched for fire assignments.
This ain’t a cakewalk, folks. Fire assignments require that firefighters work under arduous and stressful conditions – working in heavy smoke and intense heat, climbing steep and rugged terrain, and working with minimal sleep or rest, working in and living in a dirty environment and carrying heavy packs and equipment. Showers and hot meals are not generally available on a daily basis, and firefighters can be away from their "home forest" for weeks at a time. They’re often required to be on call, and must leave within two hours of being notified. Sometimes they are also called on to "hurry up and wait" depending on what the fire is doing and if and where they’re needed. They need to be in shape to meet the rigors of the job and the stress. Being physically fit is important not only for the individual, but also for the crew. Physical fitness allows individuals to maintain mental fitness as well which can help them maintain situational awareness (SA) when their life may depend on it.
From day one you have to report to work in good physical condition. Start ahead of time with a workout plan and make sure you’re in shape. Anyone assigned to a firefighting position has to pass a physical exam as well as a fitness test (Work Capacity Test, WCT) administered by the Forest Service or other federal agency. Getting hired into a particular position can require a particular standard of physical fitness beyond the WCT, for example Hotshots and Smokejumpers demand higher standards than other kinds of crews because they often work under more extreme and stressful conditions. You can look online at some of the various crew websites above to find out what is required for the job you’re interested in. Here’s the basic information on the physical exam and Work Capacity Test.
Here’s one Hotshot’s 17 week training regimen.
Firefighters must report to work on time with the proper equipment every day! This job isn’t for wimps. You have to be able to carry everything you bring. When you report to work you’ll be issued fire gear — from protective clothing to individual fireline equipment. It’s your responsibility to keep your assigned equipment in working order during the fire season.
If you’re on a handcrew, here’s a list of equipment you should take.
Firefighter reply: Apply immediately, and often. More importantly you need to get ‘face time’ with potential employers… ie. Engine Captains, Crew Bosses, Battalion Chiefs, etc. You must be sure to make a good first impression! That matters, no matter what anyone says… First Impressions MATTER!
Ab comment: Ask about seasonal positions at your local Forest or the Forest where you’d like to work in December and January. Position descriptions of vacancies are posted by OPM beginning then. Look on the wildlandfire.com Jobs and Series pages. Series 0462, 0455 and 0401 are the important ones. If you don’t have a Forest in mind, do some research to see which ones might interest you and figure out which ones have a lot of fire.
Fire Career minded folks should be looking at 0401 and planning to get their college degree. We’ll add more on this topic when time permits.
Check this “They Said” advice to new people looking for jobs. Start at the bottom.
Well everybody is different about what they want to take out on the line with them.
The six things you do need are:
This compilation is compliments of KPC, Dennis-R5, Matt, and Capt. Crotchrot (ahem, a former hotshot). You probably don’t want to carry all of these things, but the list gives you a starting place. Oh, if you take a camera and get any good pics, send em in! – Ab.
Find out about the pack test, now called the work capacity test.
For answers provided by wildland firefighters, check this “They Said” advice to new people looking for jobs. Start at the bottom.
Try our links page for a start.
Here is a quick primer on R-4 fire contracting and Snake River Sparky’s view from the cheap seats.
To enter the AD system, any former fed must first gather ALL their certification and training records together, so any position you identify as qualified, is documented in the paper format, including position evaluations from assignments. Then, contact the federal fire dispatch center closest to your home, or the state/regional coordination center, to see if they have a need. They can process you according to their protocols, as each region is a little different. Just BE SURE you can document the training, task books and positions you intend to claim for a redcard. If any of the positions require fire refreshers and annual pack test completion, and the dispatch center can direct you on that too. (submitted by MJD, Dispatcher, USFS).
The University of Idaho website has information regarding the requirements to fulfill the IFPM 401 Series Stds.
In the move to a professional firefighting series, the powers that be have come up with having everyone be a biologist plus (opm series 0401). Fed employees currently in positions designated after the Storm King Incident in ’94 (14 key positions) now have to get up to speed in the transition to professional fire manager -> biologist + fire by 2007. The fed agencies are working with University of Idaho to help people find online courses to fulfill their bio degree and fire requirements.
For more info, look here:
U of Idaho info on 0401 series requirements. For online courses click the first link on the left under Courses.
For more answers and explanations, go down to Agency Employee FAQ at the bottom left, or look at the NIFC Frequently Asked IFPM Questions site:
Courses are being offered on campus at a variety of universities across the west. In addition to University of Idaho, check University of Montana, and in California.
Here’s what MP says:
The University of Idaho along with the Forest Service, BLM, National Park Service, BIA, United States Fish and Wildlife Service, and some state agencies are working towards to help meet the 401 series standards. Representatives from these agencies have been meeting with the University of Idaho since December 2004, to determine the best way to meet the needs. The University of Idaho’s College of Natural Resources is currently putting together classes and programs that will help employees meet the 401 series requirements. The University of Idaho is including other universities and colleges as well. If you would like to view what has been done to date, there is a website where you will be able to get information about classes and a program as it develops. Any of these three websites will link you: http://401series.com, http://401series.net or http://401series.org (same as link above).
This website will explain 401 and the requirements, help you understand how you will be able to meet them, and what the University of Idaho and others can offer that will help you. Please remember that currently the website is still under construction and new information is added all the time as it develops.
The University of Idaho has and is creating more courses that can be taken on-line that will fit the 401 needs. They are developing short course workshops that will be given in a variety of places throughout the Intermountain Northwest and perhaps elsewhere. The College of Natural Resources is working to make sure the courses offered will meet the 401 series requirements. If anyone has questions about how the College of Natural Resources can help and what is currently being done please visit the website or call the College of Natural Resources, (208) 885-8981 – ask for Cheri Cole. You can also email questions to email@example.com.
You must first secure a visa with a work permit through the U.S. Embassy, then acquire a resident alien card (green card). After that, you will compete with U.S. citizens through the seasonal application process.
The hitch is — before you can get a working visa and green card, you usually need to have a job in the U.S. and be sponsored by the employer. This is the kind of thing that you need sort out in advance… You’ll need to work with a private fire employer or a state or city fire department before you even apply for federal employment in wildland fire.
Most firefighting in Australia is done by volunteers… Here’s a comment from Dick Mangan.
The Aussies have a relatively "closed society" and are able to maintain it because of the limited means of access! They don’t let folks into the country just "because I want to do it". You must have a skill that the Aussies cannot fill from within their own workforce. Bushfire fighters are not in short supply: the Country Fire Authority (CFA) out of Melbourne has about 800 full-time paid employees and 65,000 volunteers; the New South Wales Rural Fire Service (RFS) headquartered in Sydney has more paid folks, but 85,000 volunteers. Their fires generally last only a day or two, except under rare conditions. No staffed fire stations, no fire camps, everyone goes home at night!
Save your money and be a tourist, but don’t count on going "DownUnda" as a bushfire fighter .
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Internet Explorer: go to the wildlandfire.com page you wish to have as your starting point when you first open Internet Explorer. From the main menu at the top select Tools, then Internet Options, make sure the General Tab is selected. At the top in the Home Page setting, you will see a text box with three buttons beneath. Click the Use Current button, then the OK button at the bottom. That’s it.
Netscape: similar to IE, go to the page you want to have as your home page. From the main menu at the top select Edit, then Preferences. Click Navigator in the left side of the new window, then in the middle of the right hand side you will see a Home Page area, click on the Use Current Page button, then click the OK button to save changes. You’re done.
For photo senders, we prefer jpg images due to the compression to smaller files, bmps are uncompressed and much larger. However, we can accept and convert most any file type. We would like all individual files to be under 200k unless they should be considered for wallpaper, at which point they can be up to 1mb. Bundled photos submitted should be limited to 1.5 mb per email.
Click here: Photo-Making Instructions.
The powerpoint programs are large, from over 500k up to 6mb. I wouldn’t recommend trying with anything under a 56k modem and even that will be a slow process. Try to avoid high traffic times on the Internet, begin the download in the early morning or late evening. If your computer it still disconnects or stops in the middle of the download you may need to use a computer with faster download capabilities. There are also programs available which allow your computer to reconnect and continue a file transfer from where it left off. Here is one: http://www.pppindia.com/intl/getagain/ Win95/98/NT. Shareware $10.00. 30 Day evaluation."