Is the hotlist down for some upgrade?
Thanks for bringing it up! I was wondering if it was just me…
Irritating on a Santa Ana day…..Come on guys!
I sent an email a few days ago to find out what is going on and have not received a reply.
Same thing here. It’s been down several weeks. I’ve tried emailing from this site, emailing from the Firewhat site, Facebook message to Firewhat, etc. with no response. Seems like everything stopped posting after the 1st of Nov. Even the “Incident Dashboard” isn’t updated.
Hearing rumors that this site has been shut down by the managers. People claiming to be previous employees are saying that the parent company has gone bankrupt and closed their doors. As a Mod, I haven’t heard this from a confirmed source but am trying to find out more.
This was posted by Sam Lanier on the Wildland Firefighters Facebook page. I think it’s appropriate to post here since we are not getting answers from the company.
I was the founder of FireWhat, and through a series of bummer events, the Board of the Company decided to close the doors. It was a sad day for us. Believe me. And a sad day for the time and efforts we put into the company. I had stepped away a few months before the Board decided to close down the company, and when I stepped down, I honestly didn’t think we would be closing the doors a few months later. We didn’t “Bail”. The staff of the company put their heart and souls into working to make a safer fire community. Wildlandfire.com was one project as part of several others. We were working on live firefighter tracking. Working with Congress to support additional funding, and spent many countless hours on the front line helping with wildfire mapping and integrated technologies.
But, we ultimately were at the discretion of the Board who decided to close the doors. We were growing faster the revenues could keep up, and to look back on the 7 years building the company, I am pretty proud of what the team did accomplish. I get not everyone is going to be happy. Believe me, when we learned the company would close, we weren’t happy to see al the work we had created go away. But, maybe someone new will come along and move the efforts forward!”
Thanks for the update
So sorry this all going down, hope you all will be back.. MISS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
I tried to send a message to contact them tonight through the web site, after 3 failed attempts I gave up. I have also heard that they (provided) we out of business. However, not able to confirm that rumor.
Interested in getting in touch with current moderators from the site and any other intersted people to see what we can do to keep the Hotlist community in touch and vibrant. Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
So basically after all these years it’s done? It all started with They Said years ago. They said was our only means of connecting primarily discussing issues and topics in the federal wilandfire community. Then in transition of leadership the Hotlist took over and no longer was there great discussion from great leaders in the federal side. However, the Hotlist was an amazing tool and avenue for information sharing, primarily initial attack. I hope someone or somewhere else the torch will be picked back up. A lot of people rely on this site. Sad to see a small operation of volunteers running this place for most of the years see all go because of business issues
The firewhat website is now gone. Maybe esri will pick up this site but i doubt it. Thanks for passing the word along.
It would not be that hard to replicate at a minimum the Hotlist. We have a webmaster that could build the site out and make it functional rather quickly. We have the domain already and should have a beta site up next week. Hope this helps. wildlandfireincidents.com
Golden State Fire Support, Thank you so much for your efforts.
ended up using this url
www dot wild fire incidents dot com
site is up and running…. but its just a shell. we will add features as we go.
Awesome news as the Hotlist was great used by so many people and agencies.
One of there big trucks has been parked in Petaluma since the Sonoma and Napa Fires
I sure hope someone can take over the forums and get access to the data and just have it transferred. It would have been nice if they gave some warning and option for members to take it over.
The lack of warning or official followup really damages the owners credibility. They could have at the very least put some sort of explanation on the site.
Well Said !!
Anyone have any information on the administrators? I’ve got the resources to carry on the site. Need to facilitate communication with the owners if anyone can help.
yes I do. I tried to post an email addy before for someone else to get in touch with me, but it has to be approved…I don’t know who has access to do that here.
let me try this: disgruntlement at yahoo dot com
I’m curious as to why this usl is still working but not the forum. Kind of strange.
Ugh, meant to say URL
it would appear the asset liquidators have purposely taken down the hotlist.
wild fire incidents dot com
I take it you plan on adding quite a few more forum categories? First I would add is a forum help and support issues. Or a suggestion box. Just my opinion.
Cant find the new link -
www . wildfireincidents . com
End of an era… Thanks to the Mods and everyone else for the run. It was good while it lasted.
So sad to see the hotlist is no more. It was such a great source of information. Thank you to all who put in so much time and effort.
I’m looking forward to the development of the new wildfireincidents page. Thank you Golden State Fire Support for taking this on.
How will I get my play by play breakdown of what VLAT’s are doing? Sad to see the site go, hopefully just a minor hiccup and we can recover.
Very sad this is no longer up, but mad that the administrators couldn’t give a reasoning or the courtesy to let the community know. Any other sites to use as a forum for info? Wildfire incidents site just isn’t the same or close
Before everyone jumps over to a new site, I hope we can engage the Golden State developers in an honest conversation about how the site will pay for itself and survive business ups and downs. The hotlist isn’t just about future fires, but an great archive about past fires and full of good local knowledge. Let’s work to salvage the old site and community and figure out a longterm plan for it before we just jump to a new version without knowing anything about who owns it or how it’ll be run.
Two thumbs up to Pyrogeography’s last post. Lots of archives, great learning tools, too much to lose. I (not being from a wildland background) as LG municipal FF who assists in the dirt, have relied on all of the forums and other areas besides the IA posts. Hope that the site and archives can be salvaged.
If the past developers cared about the history of the site, they would have made a copy of the historical databases and leaked them out… We created the new site because no one else picked up the baton. We have asked the community what they would like in a site, and have attempted to follow their direction to the best of our abilities. if you’re interested in saving this site… the number I heard was $30- 40K
If you would like to have a conversation please feel free to ask. We have a general discussion board waiting for your input and questions.
Golden State Fire Support
Thank you Golden State Fire Support – Something is better than nothing, right now.
The new site is amazing and will surpass the old one.
I understand why they took the site down-money. The site offers so many tools for firefighters that should be available. I don’t know how much the Board realizes how much the public depended on it. This is so vital. The media is always behind on reporting so the general public has relied on the wildland fire hot list to help them in their attempts to evacuate early. We could have used the site during the horrific fires we recently have had.
They could have asked for a small membership cost from non firefighters or everyone if money was an issue. It has been an invaluable resource for me! I am sad about this… Especially witout an explanation
I’m not going anywhere! There are a handful of us who want to save the site and bring back the original intent of the Abs. I am in contact with some people in the know and there is interest in saving the site…however no one is going to pay $30-40K for a website that has never made a profit. Especially not for a resource that has always been free to the community. Firewhat didn’t give a shit about the site (I’m just going to say it). They told absolutely no one involved with the hotlist (people who had been with the site for many years before the other guys came along) that Firewhat went bankrupt or that the site was going to be “liquidated”…the hotlist was just taken down out of the blue. No one was ever given a chance to back up anything, save archives, or tell members what was going on …pretty effing low.
I am with Stringtown. The site needs to be saved and it is hard to understand why such a thing would happen the way it did and the lack of respect is dumbfounding!
yes, the lack of respect for people who actually care about this website is upsetting. we hope we are able to keep it going.
If you think the site is worth saving and would like to get in contact with me, you can email me at:
disgruntlement @ yahoo.com
We believe this is a very important tool for the fire community, that is why we created our site… not to replace the hotlist, but to fill the gap. If and when the hotlist comes back we would shut our site off. We are currently looking at the possibility of creating a non profit to run the new site. We would have a board of directors appointed at first to run the community. We re commented to creating a LONG LASTING community for the fire service. By running it as a non profit organization it takes a lot of the “will it be around next year” factor.
As a Fire Wife, I totally relied on this site (for info on the fire my hubby was at or for fires close to home – The Thomas Fire). Here’s hoping it comes back or we get another site to take over. It is a very important tool to alot of people.
Wondering if this post is still enabled…
Came home from a week away to a plume of smoke and realized how much I loved & will miss this site.
If so I’m wondering why Hotlist chatter couldn’t be moved to Twitter. Big advantage is that it would be self-organized and wouldn’t require a financial outlay. Example, there could be a main account @WFHotlists, Regionality / incident could be identified by hashtag #WFHCA #Thomas.
I’m going to miss getting dinged by the MODs for posting in the wrong place
My company RedZone has been building software and technology for wildland for 20 years. We would be willing to host and manage a new site as well as create a Board of Directors who would ensure the continued success of the site over time. You can reach me at cwoodward @ redzone.co if you would like to discuss.
Is there any way to recover a post from the hotlist? I am highly interested in the post a few years ago, I believe titled: -in-depth-boot-reviews. It was very well done and I wanted to review the info on resoling my Nicks hotshots to a lower heel.
sorry man…FireWhat did not archive the website at all. So unless someone eventually is able to buy the website back, everything on the hotlist is lost.
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