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  • 06/02/2016
  • Former El Dorado

How come we continue to treat our co-workers like this.  Treating another human in this manner is beyond comprehension.  All employees on these units should condemn these actions and do everything they can to make sure it doesn’t happen again.  Its criminal to treat people like this.

I will never return to that unit until all the co-conspirators are gone.


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  1. Coyote
    July 2, 2016 Reply

    I here ya!

    After 8 seasons I witness and experienced criminal acts on several hotshot crews and all claims were brushed under the rug. With a never having a bad performance evaluation I still lost my rehire right after claiming hostile work environment and waste fraud and abuse. I loved my job but some of the people I worked with belonged in prison. They also did not care about the forest. I grew up in a forest agency and am sad values have declined so much. Keep your head up and keep fighting. I’m am. I have an open case against these assholes!!!

  2. stringtown
    July 3, 2016 Reply

    Sadly this is all too comment for women in men dominated professions, especially in fire. I was lucky enough to work with a lot of great guys over the years who always treated my with respect, but I always ran into someone on a fire that would make some sort of rude or sexist comment. Also sadly, a lot of women don’t even believe me when I claim this is a still a widespread problem…that I’m just some feminist whiner, and how things have improved so much since “their day.” I totally agree, we’ve made a lot of progress since the 1950’s and 60’s, but old ideas die hard and we still have a ways to go.

  3. Your name...
    July 4, 2016 Reply

    I have one word. Unemployment!!!!!

  4. Sideline
    July 12, 2016 Reply

    The BLM very recently fired a member of a Type II hand crew after a female member of the crew informed the crew supervisor that a co-worker was treating her inappropriately. After the supervisor verified the complaint and issued a serious warning, the fire fighter repeated the disrespectful behavior. He was escorted back to his duty station (in another state) and relieved of his job immediately.

    Nicely done BLM crew supervisor. Things are changing, one quality manager at a time.

  5. Smokey307
    July 24, 2016 Reply

    There have been a few breakthroughs in the past 40+ years. In my class at a forestry school was the first woman in the state to ever major in forestry. She took some kidding as a freshman but nothing because of her gender, just the typical freshman stuff from upper classmen. When she showed she could do her studies as well as anybody, she was absolutely accepted as one of the group. The Forestry Club was one of the strongest groups on campus and because of that we got hassled a lot by others. We took care of each other and this lady was no exception. She went on to a great career in forestry and raised a family at the same time. More importantly, she paved the way for a lot of young ladies who succeeded her in the school. She is one of my heroes.

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