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  • 07/03/2014
  • Honky Tonk

Does anyone know if there is someone in the fire science or PPE side of wild land fire who is encouraging ideas for new fire shelter designs or holding any competitions for the general public/ universities/ research facilities to be a part of? Two nights ago after having a heavy heart about the Granite Mountain Hotshots I had an idea that woke me up in the middle of the night, and so far seems like a miracle in thermal survival. I am slowly finding some of the stuff to make it and handle it right now, but if it’s a viable option I’m going to need people power, a place to do it, other expertise, etc.. JUST TO COME UP WITH A SMALL TEST SAMPLE..  It would be nice if there were some kind of a “think tank” put together for improving safety that was comprised of more than just agency fire people.  No offense to agency people because I was one for a decade. I just think it would be good to include engineers, materials scientists, doctors and anyone with a good idea. Please help me get somewhere with this. I have a wonderful idea that I think  I need to share with someone/everyone. Please tell me who can help get this info out to everyone so they can put it through its paces.

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  1. Jesse Shannon
    July 5, 2014 Reply

    I love it. The idea of a competition aimed @ including many people & ideas is great. I’m a FFT1 on a contract handcrew based out of southern Oregon, & have always had issue w/the shelters. In my opinion they not only give a false sense of security often, they also work a relatively small percentage of the time (I think it on par w/cpr generally) & they certainly weigh you down a bit. If given the option I’d go w/out, & I currently plan my actions as if I don’t have one. I sincerely hope this idea gains traction & support. Anything I can contribute I’d be more than willing.

  2. Jim Roth
    July 5, 2014 Reply

    We’re always interested in new materials and technology. And we can run tests on your materials as well!

  3. Bear
    July 5, 2014 Reply

    Roger Roth’s brother whose first name escapes me was an engineer at the jet propulsion lab when Roger died at the South Canyon fire 20 years ago. In tribute to Roger he spent an enormous amount of personal time designing a better fire shelter that wasn’t adopted. But he may be a good source of information.

  4. wtf
    July 6, 2014 Reply

    Viking, the Missoula Technology and Development Center (MTDC) has the lead for fire shelter development and prototype analysis. They would be the folks to contact.


  5. Yellow Angel
    July 13, 2014 Reply

    Contact Jim Roth

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